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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:32:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: DJ XXXXXX <xxxxx@earthlink.net>
To: Kent williams <kent@avalon.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [ia-raves] Re: Bush & his tax cuts...

I'm sorry... maybe I should just stop going to work, fake a disablitly, collect
SSI and food stamps... get a pell grant to go to college cuz I'm poor ,live on
HUD or Section 8 housing... and let the tax payers cater to my needs... oh
yeah, and I will get a privacy manager so bill collectors can't call me, and
contribute to an increase of 20% on consumer goods and services...

On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Kent Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, DJ XXXXX wrote:
>> Ok....
>> Tax cuts to the upper class / priveledged class cause economic growth...
>> Sure you could give the lower middle class breaks but what stimulation
>> would that cause... Someone being able to afford an extra 6 pack of natural
>> ice and an extra trip to the bowling alley per month is not going to bring
>> us out of a recession. When the rich and big business get tax cuts and more
>> ride offs, they tend to increase there work force, buy new cars etc...
> A lot of economists -- i.e. those who aren't just mouthpieces for the
> Republicans -- think precisely the opposite -- any money you give back to
> lower-income people is going to be spent immediately, whereas more
> well-to-do people already spend as much as they want anyway.
> The real purpose of the tax cuts, as near as I can figure out, is simply
> to force the Congress to cut more services for the poor and vulnerable.
> Big businesses already get more welfare from the government than goes to
> poor people, and corporate subsidies and tax breaks NEVER get cut.

[User Picture]From: m3ani3
2003-06-04 05:50 am (UTC)
Kent, you are *so* right. What DJ XXXXX didn't take into account is that even though someone being able to afford an extra 6 pack of natty ice and an extra trip to the bowling alley per month multiplied by hundreds of thousands of families....will stimulate the economy more than 1000 rich guys (and women!) pocketing a few hundred bucks.

did you read the article about the Green Party possibly not putting a candidate on the ballet for the next presidential election? instead...supporting the Democrats.

We are headed to a Brave New World as sad as this is.
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[User Picture]From: auditorium
2003-06-04 10:51 am (UTC)
I'm always disturbed by the degree to which the poor are vilified. Most people don't choose to be poor they're born into it. Yes, there are some who take advantage of "the system", but with Welfare Reform and all the cuts to social services thanks to the Bushies, there isn't a lot to go around anymore.

I hate that people imply that folks on government assistant "have it good or easy." Being poor is very hard and demoralizing. This country worships those who "have" and piss on those who don't. It's not right.

I grew up poor. We went without electricity for a summer and our bread came from the day-old bakery outlet where Wonder Bread cost 15 cents a loaf because that's all we could afford. My mom had at least 3 jobs and we barely scraped by. I know first hand what's it's like to be shunned for not "having". I know how limited access to health care and education are when you are poor.

For some reason I've beaten the odds and escaped the economic bracket I was born into, but I'm fully aware that I'm an exception to the rule. I don't ever want to be poor again, that's for sure, but will never lose the empathy I feel for regular hard working low income folks. They deserve a tax break, not to stimulate the economy, but so they can pay some bills and feed their kids.

I could go on...
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