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I'm mad as hell and those fuckwits can fuck the fuck off. [Mar. 22nd, 2008|09:56 am]
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Part of how I feel comes from the fact that Barack Obama is My Guy. Fair enough I'm biased. The ref's a bum,etc.

But what the fuck is up with this Rev. Wright video and the uproar?

I don't believe that the government sent AIDS and crack to the ghetto to kill black folks. But I understand the metaphoric truth that makes that attractive to some Black Nationalists -- it has as much emotional truth as say, Jesus turning water into wine, or walking out of his tomb. And any Christians reading this, don't even start. I'm just saying.

But everything else Wright said on those videos is pretty right on. US brought 9/11 on itself? Well, Al Qaeda was founded with the specific grievance of wanting American bases out of Saudi Arabia. Beyond that, there is a general grievance they have that the US supports undemocratic regimes in the name of Oil and regional stability. It doesn't justify flying hijacked jets into the WTC and the Pentagon. That's still a horrible crime. But it's not like the US is an innocent bystander on the world stage.

And why wouldn't black people curse America from time to time? How would you feel about any country that who kidnapped your family and treated them like property? And what about the ongoing racism of this society? It may be easier to get ahead in the US for black folks than it was 50 years ago. But any black person that doesn't signify by the accent, clothes and attitude that they've surrendered to the dominant culture is going to have a hard time.

That may in fact be Reverend Wright's biggest sin in those videos. He's just WAY TOO BLACK for his detractors. He's not playing the game. Hell, that is a big part of Obama's appeal -- the way he talks and the way he dresses is white enough to keep white folks from getting uncomfortable.

Frankly, all the people howling about how horrible Rev Wright are full of shit. They want to maintain some shibboleths of patriotism that simply aren't supported by the facts of our history. They want to condemn someone for getting in their face with uncomfortable oratory. How dare they tell Rev. Wright, or by extension Barack Obama, that reflexive, unthinking, uncritical patriotism towards a country with plenty of blood on its hands is a prerequisite for them to be let into the centers of power?

Motherfuck them and John Wayne.

[User Picture]From: icis_machine
2008-03-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
as far as i know the main issue is that wright represents a church which presumeably is a 501(c)(3) and as such must refrain from anything that resembles endorsement or opposition of political figures much less government. i think beyond the racist overtones, there is some political discussion that puts that tax classification in jeparody.
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[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2008-03-22 06:23 pm (UTC)
That 501c3 law may have had good intentions, but it has been enforced so selectively that is can only be viewed as a tool for the party in power to harass those that oppose it.

And besides, the way the Wright videos are edited, they have less to do with an infringing endorsement, and everything to do with trying to convict Obama of guilt by association with some controversial views that Wright holds.

And the point I was making was that Wright's views might be a little raw and flaky around the edges, but to be offended by them is to hold a fairy-tale view of the USA.
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[User Picture]From: bdu
2008-03-22 05:45 pm (UTC)
Ha, nice PE reference.
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[User Picture]From: speicus
2008-03-22 09:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I don't get it either. Everything Wright says is either spot on (but apparently Scary to certain people!) or so nutty that it's hard to take seriously. It's not like the Clinton camp doesn't have its share of nutters either.

The only semilegitimate gripe I've heard is that Wright makes a big deal of Obama being the poor black guy, and Clinton never having to deal with any of the same stuff, without giving any thought to what kind of opposition or oppression Clinton might have encountered on account of being female. But even this I don't totally get, because I don't see why every discussion on race has to include a discussion on gender, and what's interesting about Wright's speech is that it seems to be actually totally genderblind (for once).

Anyway, Barack turned it into an opportunity to give a big ol' Historic Speech and snag a key endorsement, so I'm not too worried. I'm starting to feel like he has it wrapped up at this point. I hope so, at least, I'm ready for someone to win the nomination already.
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[User Picture]From: bitterwhiteguy
2008-03-24 01:21 pm (UTC)
You don't get it because you're not coming from the viewpoint of those who are legitimately outraged. The people I've heard with a real complaint about the guy are usually very religious in nature and they take church(and what their reverend says) very seriously. The reverend is a major influence in their life and they can't imagine Obama going to a church for 20 years and not being influenced to the same degree by his preacher....who happened to be on tape damning America and blaming the gov't for selling crack to minorities. That is what has them upset, that a guy with the potential President's ear is whispering these kinds of thoughts to him in private.

Personally I don't agree with them and don't think it's a big deal, but that seems to be the common thread I've heard from those who aren't just spewing Rush Limbaugh's talking points.
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[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2008-03-24 01:58 pm (UTC)
How many people like you describe might actually vote for Obama?

For that matter, how long will our politics be controlled by know-nothing knee jerk morons who get hard every time someone waves a cross or a flag?

Wait, don't answer that.
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[User Picture]From: bitterwhiteguy
2008-03-24 02:13 pm (UTC)
I've been surprised by how many 'conservatives' are at least considering Obama, though many of them have been scared off by the whole Reverend flap. Truth be told I don't expect any of them would actually vote for him, but the fact that they'd even consider him is a sign of how well Obama's been campaigning. I think a few might still vote for him because they don't want another 4 years of Dubya's policies via McCain, but they'll be in the minority.
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