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Hillary big among ... deluded morons and racist old coots? [Apr. 2nd, 2008|12:11 pm]
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Some choice quotes from Pennsylvania

'"I like her backup man," said retired machinist Ronald Duser, referring to former President Bill Clinton. "And her family's from Scranton. She seems to be an honest person, just like my wife."

Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."

A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"'

[User Picture]From: mkb_technologie
2008-04-02 05:36 pm (UTC)
To be fair, Obama has some pretty dumb supporters. I wonder how many of them will say things like "I don't feel so hot about voting for a woman, but that's not why I support Obama. I just like him!"
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-04-03 12:12 am (UTC)
A foster grandparent is someone who takes the role of a grandparent in a child's life, if that child doesn't have grandparents who can fulfill that role. As a job description it's kind of weak IMHO. If you really want to melt your brain worry about things like guest host and military intelligence.

OTOH the African-American woman who lives across the street asked us if Obama was a Muslim. She's got a college degree and used to work as a parole officer, so she's no dummy. I think the morons at Parkview Evangelical Church have been spreading that bullshit around, and she goes there so she's susceptible.

If people don't pay attention to the news, they are going to have at best a Chinese Whispers version of the news.
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[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2008-04-03 12:14 am (UTC)
err i replied without being logged in. C'est moi mon frere!
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[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2008-04-03 12:43 pm (UTC)
This getting to you much?

It's just like Big Brother/Big Sister, only for geezers. It's that or be a greeter at Walmart.
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[User Picture]From: drthundr
2008-04-03 08:28 am (UTC)
"I don't want to be a Muslim!"

This is wrong on so many levels.

First, as a agnostic, I have to vote every national election for a candidate who does not support my beliefs, and in some cases for a candidate who opposes them. I yearn for the chance to vote for someone who doesn't embrace Christianity simply to garner votes

Second, voting for a Islamic candidate wouldn't make you "a Muslim" anymore than voting for a Christian or Jewish candidate would make you a Christian or Jew.

Third, the "iraq, lama" thing is disgusting. It all makes me think over and over that America needs a good 'ol fashioned cock punch.

I am a total Obama supporter, but if people are gonna vote against him because of personal racism, lies about his religious beliefs, lies about supposed racism on his part, I am going to be stunned. I suppose I should not be, given that way things turned out in the last two presidential elections. But it never fails, when I see a comment like that from someone who has just bought hook, line, and sinker a fallacy about a candidate for the president of the country, that is easily disprovable. I get discouraged.

Maybe it irks me personally more as an agnostic that this kind of thinking comes straight from a pulpit. That people's minds will be made up because their religious leaders will lie to them that Obama is a Muslim, as if that was a reasonable reason not to vote for him. Maybe it just makes me sad that Christians cannot even for a moment adhere to the basic tenets of their own faith and vote without judgment.
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