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Yet another sign of the end times [Jan. 14th, 2009|12:59 am]
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EDIT: hee, someone took the david lee roth a capella for "running with the devil" and put it thru songsmith.

http://music.metafilter.com/2943/Runnin-With-The-Songsmith

Here's what really baffles me about Songsmith: The hardest part of writing a song is coming up with a good lyric and a compelling melodic line. if you do that, the chords and arrangement are easy. So why automate the easiest part of songwriting, without addressing the hard parts at all?

Songsmith is just another way that compuers make it easier for those without talent to showcase how shit they are.
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From: jscro
2009-01-14 02:34 pm (UTC)
Holy crap. Lame lame lame.
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[User Picture]From: angryrobot
2009-01-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
Is that a macbook?
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[User Picture]From: speicus
2009-01-14 06:16 pm (UTC)
Huh, that's not the hardest part of songwriting for me at all.

Did I ever show you the thing I ended up doing with Diamond Dave, soprano Dawn Upshaw singing Debussy, and your circuit bent Speak & Math? It is over here (as "cadenza for mannequin head").
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[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2009-01-14 09:43 pm (UTC)
You're trying to be a composer, which means you are thinking top to bottom about composition. when i write songs -- and when a lot of people write songs -- the arrangements are determined by the skeleton of the song and the player's instincts. Maybe some rock/pop people agonize over every bass note and drum fill, but i'm more into playing it however it seems natural.

I like the cadenza though it says it's 5 minutes long buy only plays for two.

The only song I've done in a while: http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/Flicker.mp3

I'd like to hear someone who can actually sing perform it.
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[User Picture]From: speicus
2009-01-14 10:07 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I'm always thinking top to bottom, but the arrangement is definitely the hardest part for me. I feel like with most good pop songs someone is agonizing about the arrangement, but maybe it's not the songwriter -- maybe it's the producer/sound engineer/whatever.

Songsmith's arrangements are hilariously bad. I don't understand how it could possibly be a tool to help musicians write songs, unless you need help with basic chord progressions, which I guess is your point. I don't know whether to be disappointed or relieved.

(Melody and chords come to me basically simultaneously. Lyrics come before or during or after, and are harder for me. But most songs don't have compelling lyrics anyway, amirite?)

I think your voice sounds good on that recording! Sure, it's a little rough around the edges, but not in an unpleasant way. There are lots of rough-around-the-edges voices in poprock.

(Also, myspace's new music player is terrible, and consistently fucks up things like song length. I don't know what to do about it.)
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