Log in

No account? Create an account
an albuquerque not animate be armada. [entries|archive|friends|userinfo]
Okrzyki, przyjaciel!

[ website | My Website ]
[ userinfo | livejournal userinfo ]
[ archive | journal archive ]

SX & Kontakt [Nov. 8th, 2003|07:34 pm]
Okrzyki, przyjaciel!

Always "fun" to get major upgrades to a couple of workhorse programs. SX2 addresses some of the petty annoyances of SX1, and seems stable so far. The folder tracks paradigm for dealing with automation and such really seems to work.

Kontakt's main new attraction is the 'Beat Machine' which is essentially Recycle integrated into Kontakt. It takes a minute to figure out (hint: slicing mode is different than regular keymapping mode) but it's easy to load up a chunk of audio, slice it and assign slices to note numbers. They also fully support VST automation now, which dovetails nicely with the nicer automation implentation in SX.

I don't really know what the difference is between Intakt and Kontakt's beat machine mode, because they look very similar.

What it comes down to is that the market for hardware samplers is going to shrink drastically, except for things like the MPC2000/4000/1000 sequencer/sampler thingers. I really want one of the MPC1K machines. They're the right form factor -- about the size of a laptop -- and Akai stuff has always seemed easy for me to learn how to operate. What you give up relative to the MPC2000 seems to be hard disks (smartmedia cards only) and the 8 output option. What you gain is a device that could go in carry on luggage; I could fit the MPC1K and my laptop in my MAudio backpack... and the MPC1K hooks up via USB so you can use your computer to drag&drop audio into kits...

From: x09
2003-11-08 06:18 pm (UTC)
Does SX2 allow you to map a MIDI controller to an automation track? That's one of the things I wish SX1 had. Maybe I should pay the $149 and upgrade.... dammit
(Reply) (Thread)
[User Picture]From: optic
2003-11-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)
[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2003-11-08 10:05 pm (UTC)


It doesn't look like there's any way to map a midi controller to automation in general... you can, however:

1. Use 'midi learn' for a particular VST instrument, to assign an external midi controller.
2. Enable writing of automation ('w' button at the top of the vst instrument window.)
3. Play the track and tweak the controller knob or slider as you like.

This will write an automation track. If you record the MIDI CCs to a MIDI track while you're writing automation, you'll have a MIDI track and an automation track both trying to do the same thing.

You'd think it would be easy to right click an automation track, say 'MIDI LEARN' and go. You'd think that, wouldn't you?
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)
From: x09
2003-11-08 10:13 pm (UTC)


That sucks. It's totally a missing feature. What I wanted to be able to do with it was map a controller to an automation track and control it live. Maybe with MIDI learn it'll work but that would of course depend on the plugin.
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)
[User Picture]From: chaircrusher
2003-11-08 10:29 pm (UTC)


I see what you want to do, but I think if you asked Steinberg, they'd twirl the propeller on their beanie and say "DOES NOT COMPUTE!"

Cubase Automation is a contract between plugins and Cubase, about what knob motion in the plugin means. A proper vst plugin will notify the VST host when the user changes parameters, and will change those same parameters when they receive automation data from the host. But automation data != MIDI data. That, amazingly enough, seems to have not occurred to good ol' Steinberg.

To do what you want to do, you'll need to set up MIDI CC mapping for whatever VST instruments/plugs, and then make sure that a MIDI track assigned to those instrument/plugs are all record enabled. Oh, and you'll have to have all your different plugs responding on different MIDI channels, and your controller will have to be smart enough to send on different channels.

If you want another SX2 gotcha, apparently they support using MIDI files as grooves, and importing the 5.1 groove templates, but they don't ship any groove templates. You have to have the 5.1 installed somewhere and then copy the grooves out. Grrr.
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)